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Original post by zufrieden, Mar 21.

Although this site shows signs of being on its last legs as a discussion forum, those of us who have been friends for over a decade should nonetheless stay in touch.  Given that the situation today is one of somewhat (though by no means totally) justified hysteria over another outbreak of Corona Virus (SARS was the first and, at the time, most important), you may wish to check in and let everyone know how you and your other friends and relatives are faring.   My family is so far doing well - although my youngest brother and his wife were exposed recently and are in self-maintained quarantine.

Let us know how you are doing - wherever you are in the world - and, by all means, express your frustrations, concerns and how you are keeping up the supply of grog.

Finally, a reading suggestion:  A Journal of the Plague Year by Daniel Defoe (of Robinson Crusoe fame) published in 1722 and based on recollections of the London Plague of 1665 ( a year prior to the Great Fire which destroyed, inter alia, the original St. Paul's Cathedral).

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Reply by EMark, May 28.

In my last Apsara order, the cost of shipping seemed a tad high when I reviewed the order, but I figured, what the heck, and clicked on the "Order" button.  (I guess I've been feeling flush, lately.  I don't know about you guys but we have definitely found that the "shelter in place" protocol is much less expensive than our previous lifestyle.)  Anyway, a couple weeks later, the doorbell rings, and there is a box of Apsara wine.  We put all our deliveries in quarantine for a day, before opening them up.  The next day, though, I did open it up, logged the bottles into CellarTracker and stored them away.  That day, however, I received an e-mail from Apsara.  It said that their website was overcharging the shipping charges, and, so, they were sending a $24.50 adjustment to my credit card.

I have said this multiple times on these boards that I have found wineries very easy to work with when problems occur..  In fact, there have been multiple occasions when they have over compensated for mistakes.

Not really anything to do with your story, Jack.  I just wanted to tell my story.

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Reply by jackwerickson, May 28.

I was actually thinking that they would say they made a mistake and would honor the original, it doesn’t bother me that I want get it till this fall. You are correct about shelter in place I keep looking at wines to buy when I don’t need them. EMARK I also use Cellartracker if you are inclined we can show our Cellars 

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Reply by zufrieden, May 29.

One Suggestion... a quick one: you can contact BigAl on this site and join a few of us here on snooth at Big Al's site.  We seem to be enoying it, but you need to be invited.  Try emailing Big Al first.  If you get no reply, I can take it from there.  

Z.

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Reply by jackwerickson, May 30.

 zuf will take your suggestion and ask Big Al to invite me to join

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Reply by EMark, May 30.

EMARK I also use Cellartracker if you are inclined we can show our Cellars 

 

Sure.  I am EMark on CellarTracker, also.  Click on "People" and enter EMark into the search box, and I'll be the first one that pops up.  Feel free to send a friend request.

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Reply by vin0vin0, May 30.

Same here - Vin0Vin0 (zeroes) on CellarTracker.

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Reply by dvogler, May 30.

Congratulations Jack on your marital longevity!

If it's a really hot summer day and I have plans for wine and a bbq or something, I may begin with a cold rose.

Chris, I don't know how many BC bargains you'll get in Alberta.  If you can find and Cedar Creek or Stag's Hollow bottles ($20-24) try those.  Also, the 2017 See Ya Later Ranch "Ping" meritage is very good for about $24.  Give it an hour and it's great.

Sorry guys that I haven't been on here helping to keep the conversation going.  I've been overwhelmed with work, and on weekends helping my coworker renovating his recently purchased house.


 

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Reply by jackwerickson, May 31.

EMARK + vin0vin0 added both of you my name in Cellar tracker is Jerick 

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Reply by jackwerickson, May 31.

Damn wished I lived next door to you two and was a friend, my collection pales in comparison. I am the only one that drinks wine, my wife can’t anymore and at 82 I probably have more than I will every drink especially if I don’t quit buying,but I will try. Based on the size of your collections do either one of you use Coravin I do

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Reply by EMark, May 31.

Damn wished I lived next door to you two and was a friend,

 

That is hilarious.

So.do I, Jack.  I would love to share.  I would love to do side-by-side tastings of some of your WA wines and some of my CA wines.

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Reply by jackwerickson, Jun 1.

Have a question  do all wineries use different clones on a given plot,same grape, and blend the the different clones to get a particular taste? Are there wineries that use only one clone Hopethisis clear a Pinot Winery in Santa Barbara that uses 5 different clones in their blending this maythe way they all do I just never thought about so I don’t know the answer

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Reply by EMark, Jun 1.

I'm certainly not a Pinot Noir expert, but to my recollection yes there are wineries that blend multiple clones in their wine, but, also, there are wineries that ferment only grapes of a single clone, also,

My suspicion is that there are vineyards that grow only one clone or segregate different clones in different blocks, and there are vineyards--particularly, older vineyards, where different clones are commingled.

Being retired, I have nothing better to do that research questions like this.

Hear are the back labels from two bottles of Rhys PN:

 

The way I read that, it seems that these wines were produced from multiple clones.  It is not clear whether these different clones were cofermented or blended after fermentation.

I could not find any information like this on my other PN bottles, but I did find this at the Ojai Vineyards web site detailing the specifics of their Special Bottling of the 2017 Fe Cienega PN

For this 2017 Fe Ciega Special Bottling we repeated what we loved in our 2012 iteration: we bought the wood for these two Francois Freres barrels 4 years before they were made, giving the staves two additional years of air drying than usual, so harsh tannins are further cured out and the wood influence is more subtle. These pricy special barrels were filled with a Clone 115 lot and left on fine lees until bottling 15 months later.

The way I read it, this bottling is produced from a single clone.

 

In the spirit of full disclosure, I must admit that my taste buds are not sophisticated enough to distinguish between clones.  It is interesting, though.

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Reply by jackwerickson, Jun 1.

What brought this up, a friend of mine did a virtual wine tasting, with this winery and they sent him 5 skinny bottles each one a different clone and showed everyone how they blend and what they are looking in taste they did describe the properties of each bottle aroma etc and then encouraged them to make their own blend they also told them they make the wine to suit their taste and if you don’t like buy another brand. It got me thinking,and your wines show you have a lot of Bedrock I have a lot of Quilceda, so my conclusion was if I like that brand what is the purpose of me buying and trying other brands or types of wine. I am going to try the Bedrock my fear is what am I going to do if I like better. Like you I have been retired for 22 years and I get these odd subjects to think about. Thanks for information sophistication left my palate years ago.

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Reply by jackwerickson, Jun 2.

Zuf I posted the request to Big Al on this venue, not sure how often he looks at it I do not have his email address, and not sure he wants it public, I think you have my email address if not I will send it to you on private note 

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Reply by EMark, Jun 2.

 so my conclusion was if I like that brand what is the purpose of me buying and trying other brands or types of wine. 

 

Boy, you and I are absolutely on the same page, Jack.

At this stage in my life, I know what I like.  I may be missing something because I'm not tasting a lot of Greek wines (or anything else), but I know that I have to drink a lot of mediocre (or worse) Greek wines before I stumble into a winner.  Why?

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Reply by zufrieden, Jun 4.

Nice little discussion going here.  I know EMark fairly well, he is an eminently clubbable guy, and even better: he knows a great deal about California wines.  I, too, am a fan of Bedrock (had one the other day in fact - a Zin).  Unfortunately, it is a bit of gymnastic tortion to arrange delivery and I have been retired for 7 years now and have become a bit passive with respect to that kind of affirmative action.

I'll let Al know that he needs to check his email at this site.  He is a very decent bloke and will set you up promptly.

 

Z.

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Reply by dvogler, Jun 5.

Jack, if you end up liking something more than Quilceda Creek, I'll happily make some purchases from you!

I visited Hendry Winery with Foxall back in 2014 and we got a tour of the vineyards and winery.  Mike Hendry showed us many blocks of different Zinfandel and Pinot Noir clones.  I think they blend them after fermentation.  Some they release as a single varietal.

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Reply by jackwerickson, Jun 5.

Dvogler Quilceda was selling their CVR 2017 , the reason it was rated 95 by somebody I forget who this was the highest rating given their 2nd wine the price was $45 a bottle I already had 4 bottles but ordered 3 more, there shippingrates are outrageous I told them to hold until fall when I make my order.dont know if you can get it shipped but you may be close enough to pick it up

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Reply by jackwerickson, Jun 6.

EMARK & Vin0vin0  just wondering if either of you have Vinopal,if not it’s a free app,must have Cellar Tracker to use it it will give you all of and more info along with a picture of your bottle. When I acquire a bottle I put the price I paid in Cellar tracker the Vinopal will show that plus the average price of it today, which is good for insurance purposes just curious 

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Reply by vin0vin0, Jun 6.

so my conclusion was if I like that brand what is the purpose of me buying and trying other brands or types of wine. 

Boy, you and I are absolutely on the same page, Jack.

At this stage in my life, I know what I like.  I may be missing something because I'm not tasting a lot of Greek wines (or anything else), but I know that I have to drink a lot of mediocre (or worse) Greek wines before I stumble into a winner.  Why?

 

Because it's fun, educational and gets me from being in a wine rut.  I have plenty of go to wines that I routinely buy and drink but I also enjoy hunting down odd grapes and wines from lesser known regions.  Granted, I've tasted plenty of plonk but then again I've found some phenomenal stuff that I would have never even looked at a second time (speaking of Greek wines, Xinamavro anyone?).

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